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I think we all understand the sentiment "Life Goes On," regardless of our location on the globe. This photo was taken during a huge Easter parade in Ramallah, Palestine. How do you feel about tattoos? Do you have any? I have two. One is a peace sign on my left shoulder and the other is the yin/yang symbol surrounded by a sun, which is located on my lower back. In America, we call tattoos in this location "tramp stamps." :) Obviously I'm not judgmental of people with tattoos, but I think it's a poor decision to get inked in highly visible places like your arms, neck, or foot because it can have a detrimental impact on professional development, etc. For instance, in most schools in America, teachers with a lot of arm tattoos are required to wear long sleeves and some restaurants even require waiters to cover visible tattoos. My cousin works at I.H.O.P (International House of Pancakes), a completely middle-class, inexpensive restaurant, and he has to wear arm bands to cover his ink.

How common are tattoos in Russia? In America, they are very popular with both genders. A 2013 study indicates that 40% of Americans in the age range of 26 - 40 have at least one tattoo. I wonder if tattoos are also negatively viewed in the Russian workforce?

Pleasant weekend to all! 

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andrey_kaminsky
Apr. 25th, 2014 01:40 pm (UTC)
Живём лишь раз
Majority of tattoos appear in youth. When I was twenty years old, i had no tattoo business around that could convert my wisdom in a tattoo, sort of "octopus makes love with a mermaid." I sublimated my craving for art in painting yellow drawings in the snow, after drinking beer. Now the youth has a lot more money and the temptation to do all that I did not commit.
peacetraveler22
Apr. 25th, 2014 02:41 pm (UTC)
Re: Живём лишь раз
You are right, I got mine in my early 20's during university. You have a very imaginative mind - octopus and mermaid having sex? Somehow I can't envision many Russian girls getting tattoos.
girlspell
Apr. 25th, 2014 01:42 pm (UTC)
I personally dislike them and don't have any. But this part of American culture. It does influence people around the world. If they see a video with the singer having those tattoos (or piercings) I'm sure they will pick it up, no matter what their parents say. An extra cool would be text in English. After a while it becomes mainstream. See no reason why Russians (especially young ones) would not indulge. There are strong taboos on body decoration with some ethnic groups in Russia though. Muslims for example shun them and do not have tattoos. Other then that, I'm sure a lot of young Russians like tattoos.
peacetraveler22
Apr. 25th, 2014 02:43 pm (UTC)
Only Muslims, or other ethnic groups in Russia? When I was in Palestine, I was amazed at how beautiful and colorful the Muslim women are. I know Russia claims to have the most beautiful women in the world, but these women were stunning. So fashionable with their colorful headscarves, jewelry, make-up, etc.
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mista_vint
Apr. 25th, 2014 02:15 pm (UTC)
I got inked for the first time when I was 18. Now I have several tattoos on invisible parts of my body and think about to make some kind of monumental one. Like half of the sleeve or something.
Unfortunately, most of the ink artist in Russia have no idea how does it work and mostly just copy of popular tattoo styles and arts from internet (= Only few gyus in whole country can make something really good. Tattoo culture in Russia is too young at all.

One more point - the fees for tatoo in Russia are extremly overpriced. Sometimes is cheeper to get a travel to Europe (Germany, Sweden, Poland) and be inked out there than be tattoed in Moscow or St. Pete.
peacetraveler22
Apr. 25th, 2014 02:46 pm (UTC)
We have a lot of talented tattoo artists in America, and it's economical to get inked due to so many shops (even in my small hometown there are several, including this one. :) What's depicted in your tattoos?

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me_frai
Apr. 25th, 2014 02:52 pm (UTC)
In Russia tatoos often associated with criminals and criminal world
peacetraveler22
Apr. 25th, 2014 02:56 pm (UTC)
It also used to be the case in America, and still is to some extent. For example, some gangs and criminal groups have specific tattoos to designate affiliation. And, there's an urban myth that tear drop tattoos indicate the number of people a gang member has killed. Like here -

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mybathroom
Apr. 25th, 2014 04:50 pm (UTC)
I don't have any tattoo.
Men who were in a prison have tattoos. The men who were in the army have tattoos too but less that the other ones. The most of those "paintings" have horrible quality and don't represent a work of art.
I've never heard about such thing as someone was refused because of their inks.

Have a good weekend!
peacetraveler22
Apr. 25th, 2014 04:52 pm (UTC)
Wish you a pleasant weekend also, Denis! :) Will you travel for the May holidays?
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olgor
Apr. 25th, 2014 05:19 pm (UTC)

What kind of impact on professional development? What the hell is wrong with this country? Where is the freedom of expression nowadays?

peacetraveler22
Apr. 26th, 2014 01:31 pm (UTC)
Freedom of expression is alive and well; however, this doesn't mean you aren't judged for the opinions you express or positions you take on political or social issues. Anyway, the tattoo issue will eventually become moot (unless of course someone has an extremely offensive one) because so many people in the upcoming generations will have them. You don't have any? Somehow I picture you with tattoos. :))
skvorets1989
Apr. 25th, 2014 06:23 pm (UTC)
I've seen many. Young people of both genders do them all the time. People of more than 30 do them much more rarely, and those who do are usually military men or somehow connected with criminal world.

I'm telling from my experience, I don't know if any studies were made on this matter.

As for myself I don't have them because I don't trust our tattoo masters. It is more responsible decision than buying something very expensive like a car for example. If I had on my arm same tattoo as the guy from the picture I wouldn't know how to live further. He is lucky he has pretty face to distract from his gross arm.

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peacetraveler22
Apr. 26th, 2014 01:29 pm (UTC)
Pretty face? :) I don't find him so attractive, but I have strange taste in men!
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onkel_hans
Apr. 25th, 2014 07:20 pm (UTC)
The civilized people invented clothes that may be changed depending on the situation and the mood.
Tattoos, if permanent, are hmm - permanent. You may change you mood or your boyfriend but the tattoo stay put.
Temporary tattoos are okay, they can carry some intimate meaning as they are closer to the body than clothes.
peacetraveler22
Apr. 26th, 2014 01:33 pm (UTC)
Well, it's not so easy to just change boyfriends. :) The stupidest decisions are the tattoos that involve a boyfriend/girlfriends name! Especially in youth, when there's a high probability you will not be life mates. I like the Indian henna tattoos, so beautiful, intricate and washable. :)
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onkel_hans
Apr. 25th, 2014 07:28 pm (UTC)
In Russia, as far as I know, the tattoos are a kind of the uniform in the criminal world.
The tattoos signify how many convictions one had, what kind of crimes one committed, how many people one has murdered.

If a man is discovered he is carrying the tattoos not related to his actual status, he will be sodomized, which means put down properly, and he will then be perceived below animals.
peacetraveler22
Apr. 26th, 2014 01:35 pm (UTC)
Same in America. There are whole online encyclopedias which depict gang/prison tattoos. Like here http://www.crimelibrary.com/photogallery/prison-tattoo-field-guide.html.
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onkel_hans
Apr. 25th, 2014 07:32 pm (UTC)
"Peace symbol"? :( Sorry, this is just as obscene as its meaning - "F... America!"

Do you know of these Anti-American KGB sponsored Aldermaston marshes?
This symbol in decent words means: America, surrender!
Very many millions of Evil Empire's dollars were spent on the promotion of this shame.

Hungarians are very sensitive of symbols. They were the first nation to ban display of the Fascist symbols: Hammer-and-Sickle, Swastika, Crossed arrows.
Once I came across a Hungarian website with the "F... America!" symbol. I contacted the managers, explained them the meaning and they immediately removed this from the web page.
peacetraveler22
Apr. 26th, 2014 01:36 pm (UTC)
Since when does the peace symbol mean "Fuck America?" Sometimes you are too smart and knowledgeable for me. :) Maybe I need to change my LJ username?
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3eta
Apr. 25th, 2014 07:48 pm (UTC)
Blue tattoos are definitely associated with prisoners in Russia and a bit with military. However, colourful tattoos are becoming more popular among youth. Mostly in the areas that can be easily covered with clothes.
peacetraveler22
Apr. 26th, 2014 01:37 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the link, interesting to view the Russian gang/prison tattoos. We have this same culture in America, but our tattoo artists appear more talented.
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qi_tronic
Apr. 25th, 2014 08:21 pm (UTC)
I think now tattoos are pretty normal in Russia.
Nobody cares.

But I personally do not like them as long as piercing or other methods of altering the body.
I also do not wear watches, necklaces, etc.
This would alter my energy field and is just uncomfortable :)

peacetraveler22
Apr. 26th, 2014 01:38 pm (UTC)
I don't wear any jewelry either, except for silver hoop earrings. How would a necklace or watch alter your energy field? Just curious.
orangetreedizzy
Apr. 25th, 2014 11:52 pm (UTC)
Shannon writes about tattoos, BBC writes about inked
http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20140424-inked-the-last-workplace-taboo
Is it world conspiracy? :)
peacetraveler22
Apr. 26th, 2014 01:40 pm (UTC)
Haha! :) Well, I'm glad a credible journalism outlet like the BBC agrees with my findings on tattoos in the workplace. It's true, a lot of the discretion depends on the client/type of person with which you are dealing. So, I agree with this guy's strategy - not covering up his sleeves when dealing with gamers, etc. and covering them when dealing with more conservative folk.
addeson
Apr. 26th, 2014 03:30 am (UTC)
I don't have any tattoos, but, ironically, I have a friend who is a tattoo artist. He sometimes talks people out of getting visible tattoos (forearm and neck tattoos etc.), especially young kids. He has tattoos all over his body though :)
peacetraveler22
Apr. 26th, 2014 01:42 pm (UTC)
Good for him! So many people get tattoos at a very young age, at the spur of the moment without much thought. One of my cousins recently got a tattoo on her tongue!! Seriously? A complete distraction when speaking w/her and she is now marked for life. That's why I have mine in hidden places. Only a select few have seen them, and I like it that way. :)
yarowind
Apr. 26th, 2014 04:40 am (UTC)
I don't like and don'n have tatoo. Why?:)
And tattoo on old people very funny look:)
peacetraveler22
Apr. 26th, 2014 01:42 pm (UTC)
You are too conservative for tattoos! :))
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