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Concepts of Beauty

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Hello! I just returned home from a beach holiday with my family. Three days lounging at the pool and on the cold, windy shores of Virginia Beach, located in Norfolk, Virginia. The city is home to a large naval base, and your ears are treated to the thunderous roar of military jets flying overhead most of the day. Generally it was very poor weather. Chilly, with a lot of rain. Yet we still managed to spend a nice few days together. Here's an au naturale shot from the beach. No make-up, wind-blown, frizzy hair, and the first sign of wrinkles. I think I've aged more this year than any others, though I'm not sure why. I always want readers to see the real me, so here I am. :)

At our hotel, I discovered a group of young toddlers on their way to a beauty pageant. In general, I hate these types of contests, especially for young girls. I read an article recently where France attempted to ban toddler beauty contests on the ground they "hyper-sexualize" minors. This is the same country that banned burqas, but I don't know the outcome of the legislation. The girls had the standard pageant look - tons of make-up, big hair, and sparkly outfits like this:

toddler

Would you allow your daughter to compete in one of these pageants? Of course, beauty is a subjective term. I've always preferred the natural, rugged look in both males and females. Not the made-up or overly altered version of a female face. I can't envision how these pageants contribute in any way to the personal growth or mental development of young females. In my mind, they only create a neurosis of physical perfection which so few can realistically achieve. What do you think? And which do you prefer - the natural or glamorous look in women?

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onkel_hans
Aug. 4th, 2014 02:22 pm (UTC)
You look just great.
My daughter simply will never go to such a contest. It is called general upbringing ;)

Yet, once I entered the bathroom when she was on the john and saw a tattoo on her butt!
peacetraveler22
Aug. 4th, 2014 03:36 pm (UTC)
Well, I have two tattoos. :) These contests are part of many young girls "general upbringing" and culture, especially in the South.
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girlspell
Aug. 4th, 2014 02:23 pm (UTC)
If you are pretty without any makeup....that is certainly a plus. I remember a law suit brought about by a women who refused to wear makeup to work. Nothing. She didn't need it. She was simply very pretty. But she got fired by the company. I can't remember if she won or not.

Beauty may be subjective, but there are universal concepts of beauty, not matter the race, ethnicity, etc. An oval face. Large eyes. Basically a face that is symmetrical. Facial features the same size except for the eyes. This is built in human breeding. All babies are born with large eyes. It triggers a protective urge (since humans are naked and defenseless at birth). Long after the person grows up (and his eyes become smaller) it lingers in concepts of beauty.
peacetraveler22
Aug. 4th, 2014 03:35 pm (UTC)
I don't see how a company can legally force a woman to wear make-up. I'm not against wearing it, as long as it's not extreme. Even I wear basic foundation, powder and sometimes lipstick to work or for social events. Btw, speaking of universal beauty concepts, have you seen or read about this experiment? It's quite interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT9FmDBrewA
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grand_damme
Aug. 4th, 2014 02:33 pm (UTC)
peacetraveler22
Aug. 4th, 2014 03:30 pm (UTC)
In the U.S., this song was adopted as an anthem for the LGBT community. Christina Aguilera was completely harassed by the press when she gained weight after her pregnancy. What an amazing voice. I love her vocals, and this is my favorite of all her songs.
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sineglazzka2301
Aug. 4th, 2014 02:41 pm (UTC)
The girl looks more like a porcellaine doll than a human being. I'd never wish my girls looked like this. My younger daughter likes to make up (and sometimes steals mine) but I allow make-up only for concerts, and moderately. The elder is indifferent to all kinds of glamour and always makes fun of her schoolmates who aren't.
I think some make up is useful for a woman, but not too much.
peacetraveler22
Aug. 4th, 2014 03:31 pm (UTC)
It's natural for most girls to play dress and put on lipstick, etc. I think it's okay, as long as it's in moderation. I never really did this as a child, but I'm strange. :) What kind of music does your younger daughter listen to? Does she drag you to concerts with her?
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alamem
Aug. 4th, 2014 02:45 pm (UTC)
I live in Canada, they tried to run this show in one of Montreal suburbs but it sparked a lot of public outrage, so finally it was cancelled. there's hope for humanity.

In Quebec, more than 43,000 people have signed a petition stating these contests “merely reinforce the broader obsession with body image… Conditioned too early to please, young girls see their parents over-emphasize their appearance.”

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/editorials/why-quebec-is-right-not-to-try-to-ban-child-beauty-pageants/article14584602/

Edited at 2014-08-04 02:47 pm (UTC)
peacetraveler22
Aug. 4th, 2014 03:38 pm (UTC)
Interesting, I can't imagine these pageants will ever be banned in America. They are too popular and woven into the culture in certain parts of the country. I don't even know if Russia has them, but I assume so.
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andrey_kaminsky
Aug. 4th, 2014 02:51 pm (UTC)
Всегда мечтал заняться сексом с тремя фотомоделями од
Who's to say that he prefers the natural view of a woman, not glamorous, he's lying. Not deliberately, with the best intentions, but lying. A wearing in a beautiful dress woman looks better than the same is in ugly coat. In addition to self-confidence, beauty can provide a woman with promoting the social ladder. Beauty is one of the advantages providing a better life to person, as well as education or citizenship of rich country
As for the children's beauty pageants, i don't know, if they helped someone to become a Hollywood star? I suspect that this is a futile exercise, as it is the work of the parents, not children. Filming in TV series has helped many.
And i know that you wrote this post specifically for me to praise you. You are beautiful and talented :) Definitely you have №2 among American women i know. (You are ahead of Hillary Clinton, but you lose a little of Tyra Banks:)

Edited at 2014-08-04 03:15 pm (UTC)
peacetraveler22
Aug. 4th, 2014 03:28 pm (UTC)
Re: Всегда мечтал заняться сексом с тремя фотомоделями
When I speak about "natural", I'm talking about a woman's face not the style of her clothing. A woman can still wear a dress and look beautiful and natural. Even I wear them on occasion. :)) No, I did not write the post to be praised. I never claim to be beautiful, nor do I really wish it. Average is good enough for me. It forces people to get to know other aspects of me as a person, and especially men are not attracted to me solely for looks. I prefer it this way. Tyra Banks. :)) She is a glamazon and is almost unrecognizable without make-up. But I like her! Strong and smart business woman.

 photo tyra_zpsa38c68ac.jpg
a_nimaida
Aug. 4th, 2014 05:29 pm (UTC)
Shannon, you have a very nice photo!
 
competitions for children is a very bad ..
joy for pedophiles
peacetraveler22
Aug. 4th, 2014 05:42 pm (UTC)
Thank you! Yes, I don't know why some parents are in such a hurry for their children to look grown-up. They should enjoy the innocence and simple joys of childhood, rather than getting their hair and make-up done.
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notabler
Aug. 4th, 2014 05:47 pm (UTC)
If I'd have a daughter and she expressed a wish to take part in this idiotic performance, I would be bitterly disappointed: I made a failure as a parent somewhere.
peacetraveler22
Aug. 4th, 2014 05:57 pm (UTC)
I think most of these young toddlers are unfortunately forced into it by their psycho parents.
mybathroom
Aug. 4th, 2014 06:42 pm (UTC)
It's creepy and I thought this is a doll.
peacetraveler22
Aug. 4th, 2014 06:45 pm (UTC)
Hi Denis! You have a son, so you don't need to worry about these things. :)
rider3099
Aug. 4th, 2014 07:03 pm (UTC)
Shannon, you are looking great!!! :)
peacetraveler22
Aug. 4th, 2014 07:03 pm (UTC)
Thanks, Olga. Nature always makes me happy. :)
amandakysses
Aug. 4th, 2014 07:13 pm (UTC)
You look so beautiful! I would never enter my child in a pageant like this. As you said, what could they learn that would be a positive thing? When I was younger I would wear a good amount of make up, and always try to look really nice and put together. As I got older, I still tried to look classic. Not sloppy.. But I wear a lot less make up now. But mascara and lip gloss can totally change a person.
peacetraveler22
Aug. 4th, 2014 07:16 pm (UTC)
As you age, you tend to care less about these things. :) However, I never wore heavy make-up. I don't understand the appeal of it. What's the man supposed to do when he sees how you really look in the morning. False advertisement! :) I always wear foundation, powder, a little mascara and neutral lipstick. Probably most people think I have nothing on.
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fesma94
Aug. 4th, 2014 07:46 pm (UTC)
"Hello! I just returned home from a beach " (c)

You are pretty beautiful, but where is photo from a beach? Where is bikini ? ))))
peacetraveler22
Aug. 4th, 2014 07:49 pm (UTC)
Bikini! It was cold there, and I have too much flesh on my bones for a bikini. :) Even when I was thinner, I didn't wear one. I think it's good to leave something to the imagination. :)
fesma94
Aug. 4th, 2014 07:51 pm (UTC)
You got me intrigued )))))
peacetraveler22
Aug. 4th, 2014 07:53 pm (UTC)
:))
yarowind
Aug. 5th, 2014 03:28 am (UTC)
>>Would you allow your daughter to compete in one of these pageants?

I am against. Yes, I am conservative:)
peacetraveler22
Aug. 5th, 2014 01:16 pm (UTC)
Actually, many of the mom's who put their daughters in these pageants are religious and "conservative." So, I don't think this has an impact. Main reason why you wouldn't do this is that you're intelligent. :) You help your kids grow through life experiences (traveling, etc.), not by being judged or praised based on superficial things like physical appearance. In my view, this is the proper way to raise a child.
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golikov_ds
Aug. 5th, 2014 06:21 am (UTC)
you are beautiful
peacetraveler22
Aug. 5th, 2014 01:13 pm (UTC)
Many thanks! :)
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