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Why is everyone so concerned about the food sanctions? I rarely look at TOP LJ, but today glanced there and almost all posts are about the food ban. A lot of Russians seem to think American food is shitty, that we're stuffing our faces with hamburgers everyday and eating only processed foods (this is not true by the way). Maybe the concern is over the loss of European imports? Over and over again, people comment that food quality is better in Russia. So, why do you care that our products will no longer appear on Russian shelves? Ah, the mysteries of the Russian mind. :) Help me understand the hysteria.

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desdichadov
Aug. 7th, 2014 02:25 pm (UTC)
Bullshit.
Never mind.
Let's talk about clever people.
peacetraveler22
Aug. 7th, 2014 02:27 pm (UTC)
What is bullshit? The sanctions, or the manner in which people are reacting on LiveJournal?
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pasha1980
Aug. 7th, 2014 02:27 pm (UTC)
They understand that their food is inferior, but out of their hurt pride cannot admit it. Admitting that one is a citizen of such an economically underdeveloped state can be deleterious to one's sense of identity.
peacetraveler22
Aug. 7th, 2014 04:48 pm (UTC)
I don't understand the point of sanctions which directly impact your own citizens. To date, the U.S. and European sanctions have mostly been targeted to Russian individuals and leaders, although I understand the latest round impacted travel on some airlines. I don't follow the sanctions closely enough to know all the repercussions.
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peacetraveler22
Aug. 7th, 2014 04:49 pm (UTC)
For some, I suppose it's a flashback or fear of returning to Soviet times. At times, this seems to be the goal of Putin's geopolitical strategy.
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rider3099
Aug. 7th, 2014 02:32 pm (UTC)
This is specific character of Russian mentality. Never mind.
peacetraveler22
Aug. 7th, 2014 04:50 pm (UTC)
I think you're right, Olga. It's difficult to understand. :) I think most Americans tend to be optimists, while many Russians have skeptical attitudes.
adoloro
Aug. 7th, 2014 02:38 pm (UTC)
To me, Russian processed food is actually not so great .
Ukrainian food tastes much better (even though it got worse during last years).
American food tastes good, but is too sweet and fat for my taste.
American airline food should not be called food at all.
peacetraveler22
Aug. 7th, 2014 04:52 pm (UTC)
I've written many posts about Russian food, which is not really to my liking. Except for the sweets of course. :) I don't like fatty meats. I find the meats in the U.S. to be more lean. Healthy eating is possible in most civilized countries - it's just a matter of discipline and picking the right items to place in your grocery cart.
vitsky
Aug. 7th, 2014 02:38 pm (UTC)
Why should russians bother about loss of food from Europe and US? I think these sanctions is a problem of those who sell that food and make a profit of it, first of all. Russia still has many partners who will supply it.

ps. By the way, belorussian food is quite good.

Edited at 2014-08-07 02:41 pm (UTC)
peacetraveler22
Aug. 7th, 2014 04:54 pm (UTC)
I remember seeing some cars at the Belarusian border crossing with a lot of grocery items (paper towels, toilet paper, food). Citizens of neighboring countries cross the border simply to shop in Belarus? Unfortunately, my stay in Belarus was so short I had no chance to really try the local cuisine. Perhaps I'll make it there again someday.
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deine_traumer
Aug. 7th, 2014 02:47 pm (UTC)
Talking about the quality of russian (or any other) food - it depends on a particular product.

As for me, I think it's really stupid to ban food import from these countries because I, personally, buy imported products (cheese, for example). Yeah, they are usually made in Europe, but whatever.

And no, I don't think that food in the US is bad, no. (I do love marshmellows, by the way :D)

There are people in Russia who buy only Russian food (it's their choice, ok), but there are also other people, you know. These sanctions will only do harm. Though I haven't been born and raised in the USSR ( I experienced all the consequences later), it seems to me that we're going back to those days.. it makes me sad.

Edited at 2014-08-07 02:49 pm (UTC)
andrey_kaminsky
Aug. 7th, 2014 03:00 pm (UTC)
Насчёт СССР ошибиться невозможно.
Как только ты перестанешь выкидывать прохудившиеся носки и начнёшь их зашивать - значит, прибыли, добро пожаловать в СССР:) Но есть и плюсы - если есть пивной животик, то он исчезнет, такого с стране советов не водилось.
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_ostara_
Aug. 7th, 2014 02:49 pm (UTC)
Nevermind. That`s all bollocks. I`m not concerned about the food sanctions. Some people are easy to fall into hysteria for any reason.
peacetraveler22
Aug. 7th, 2014 04:57 pm (UTC)
Yes, some people must always have something to worry about and be angry over.
grand_damme
Aug. 7th, 2014 02:51 pm (UTC)
in Russia is not represented quality аmerican products (excluding California wines), even the famous Marlboro cigarettes are produced in Russia have nothing in common with them except for packaging.

Сheap old chicken legs from US that's all could afford the majority of Russians.

Edited at 2014-08-07 02:59 pm (UTC)
peacetraveler22
Aug. 7th, 2014 04:59 pm (UTC)
We have very good wines in my State of Virginia also, but they are not as well-known as the California vineyards. Btw, who is the woman pictured in your avatar? What happened to Grace Jones? :))
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andrey_kaminsky
Aug. 7th, 2014 02:53 pm (UTC)
Не всякий общественный сортир так засран как ЖЖ
Some user came up with a great joke: Putin has just joined the Western leaders also imposing sanctions against Russians :)
e_g_o_r_i_u_s
Aug. 7th, 2014 03:07 pm (UTC)
Re: Не всякий общественный сортир так засран как ЖЖ
Yeah, funny :)
whiteeye
Aug. 7th, 2014 03:10 pm (UTC)
I am one of those who concerned with these sanctions.
I do like cheese which is imported from EU. I do like Italian pasta and not ready to switch to Russian one. I do like German wine Riesling and Italian Martini.
So, to me it's completely stupid to ban import of food. They should have banned something not so vital.
sau_rina
Aug. 7th, 2014 03:16 pm (UTC)
well they can ban medical equipment or imported cars, will it be better? )))
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sau_rina
Aug. 7th, 2014 03:13 pm (UTC)
There is no hysteria about American food really...May be some people are happy there won't be Cola Cola and McDonald's but it really not that healthy. Although some people like both brands and product these companies produce.

Seems that the hysteria is mostly about European food (like Polish fruits, Finnish diary products, French vine, etc.) And Russians hope that sanctions will help local manufactures to develop their business in Russia.

ps i did not read top LJ, just news and FB )))

Edited at 2014-08-07 03:17 pm (UTC)
peacetraveler22
Aug. 7th, 2014 05:13 pm (UTC)
I don't think this will have any impact on McDonald's. I assume the food distribution for each location comes from directly within in Russia, but maybe I'm wrong. It's best to stay away from TOP LJ, unless you want to read political posts, or posts focused on female appearance, bodies, and sex. This is about 90% of the content there. Developing local growers and agriculture isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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pin_gwin
Aug. 7th, 2014 03:23 pm (UTC)
Non-insider look
My opinion is that this food import ban is another layer of smoke screen, after pension changes, serving as an attention distraction from other Russian issues.
Regarding food quality - US supermarket shelves are full to the roof. But try finding a gourmet ketchup or good choice of fish/seafood. It's not there. Even around Great Lakes it is not that easy to buy smoked whitefish or lake trout . In stores it feels like all variety of choices is based on package colors and longer storage dates.
Also I would say, that I do not see a difference between food quality in expansive food stores here and the discounters, rather than nicer service.
In general, I hope that food import limitation (along with warmer climate) may help Russia to recover agriculture and related industry. It's a good timing.
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golemming
Aug. 7th, 2014 03:32 pm (UTC)
i can see only one problem - Russia imports at least 50% of food. Almost all of it is in food sanctions list. And Russia can't made up for it, at least until few years pass, so we will see rising prices and low choice of food.
a_nimaida
Aug. 7th, 2014 04:41 pm (UTC)
There are many countries where you can buy products
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cossache
Aug. 7th, 2014 03:39 pm (UTC)
Goodbye, Dr. Pepper! I'll miss you...
peacetraveler22
Aug. 7th, 2014 05:24 pm (UTC)
I no longer drink sodas, but this was my favorite as a child! :)
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