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Last night, I submitted the following post for publication in the community pora_valit. Most of you probably know the community is focused on the topic of immigration from Russia. Immigrants share their stories and perceptions about how life in the Motherland differs from the country to which they immigrated. I see alot of posts from this community in TOP ЖЖ, almost always focused on America and Americans. I submitted my insights because one of my readers thought it would be an interesting topic for pora_valit subscribers. This morning, I awoke to a message that my post was rejected because they "are not a political board." And how is the following post political?? I expressly state that I'm speaking only about human relations NOT geopolitical ones. Today there's a post in the community about federalization in the State of New Hampshire - a clearly political topic!

I'm obviously not a Russian immigrant, but the topic of my post is about people and cultural differences in communication styles between Russians and Americans. I think I'm a pretty good judge of this, given that I communicate with only Russians almost every day on my blog. The content of my post isn't directed toward my normal readers, but the general ЖЖ community. Perhaps pora_valit doesn't want to publish an English language story there? That's fine, it's their choice, and I'll respect their decision. However, I copied my original post below and ask that you pass it along to others because I believe the content is important and worthy of reading and introspection.

Original Post:

I'm not Russian. I was born in America, and have lived here my entire life. I've traveled to over thirty countries, including three trips to Russia in the past two years. My English language blog on ЖЖ, consisting mostly of travel stories, is read only by Russians. We frequently discuss my travels from around the world, social issues and the prime cultural differences between America and Russia. Almost no one in my country uses ЖЖ, or has even heard of it. It's now completely dominated by Russian speakers. I write here because I'm curious about Russia and former Soviet bloc countries, and the inhabitants of these regions. The primary goal of my blog is to promote tolerance towards different viewpoints, ideas, cultures and lifestyles.

We have a lot of interesting discussions and the majority of my dedicated Russian readers are smart, with proper manners. However, my subscriber numbers have remained static for the past few months (around 1,500). So, I recently decided to promote two of my English language posts on the Cyrillic homepage. The main purpose was to draw more Russian readers to my blog, but the promotions in the Cyrillic community were also a social experiment...to see how Russians would react upon seeing something highly unusual - English text in the top promo box of ЖЖ.

Grab the popcorn, and let's see how the animals in the Russian blogosphere behaved...!Read more...Collapse )

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Пьер Безухоff
Oct. 7th, 2014 09:46 am (UTC)
pora_valit is part of Russian LiveJournal. There sat the exact same people. And if you write about the problems that exist in every country in the West (USA, Europe ...) - 100% banned.
peacetraveler22
Oct. 7th, 2014 03:00 pm (UTC)
I'm also part of Russian LiveJournal. I opt into Cyrillic, not English, on ЖЖ. And members of the pora_valit community understand English. A lot of them are Russian immigrants, now living in America.
>>I'm also part of Russian LiveJournal - citizen_md - Oct. 16th, 2014 09:04 pm (UTC) - Expand
vovik01
Oct. 7th, 2014 10:08 am (UTC)
"Это Питер,детка!"- welcome to reality:-)
peacetraveler22
Oct. 7th, 2014 03:01 pm (UTC)
I love Peter! :)) Seriously! My favorite Russian city.
popados
Oct. 7th, 2014 10:41 am (UTC)
comments in runet is a dump of opinions, mainly of a humans-animals, or so. Many of them do it for money. Just don't read this shit, and don't give up, stay in russian segment!)).
wise_gorilla
Oct. 7th, 2014 10:59 am (UTC)
Why nobody ever offers me any money to write comments on the runet? Where should I apply? I'm a human-animal, just look at my grav, I'm right for the job! I'm writing so many comments, I really should have become a billionaire by now!!!
Мудрый вождь - andrey_kaminsky - Oct. 7th, 2014 11:21 am (UTC) - Expand
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me_frai
Oct. 7th, 2014 10:48 am (UTC)
"East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet"
Americans criticize Russians for their excessive curiosity of life of others and their inexhaustible advices for unfamiliar people, Russians criticize Americans for their emotional insincerity and indifference
By the way, in this particular case I agree with your position rather than with positions of your commentators, although I understand why they behave like that
peacetraveler22
Oct. 7th, 2014 03:05 pm (UTC)
I hope it's obvious based on my posts and conduct here that I'm 100% sincere with my writings and intentions for maintaining my blog on ЖЖ, rather than a stand alone site which could attract more English speakers. But, I understand your point. The cultures and social interactions between our nations are very different, and sadly it's doubtful the "twain will ever meet."
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livejournal
Oct. 7th, 2014 10:51 am (UTC)
Russian Aggression...Stop Feeding the ЖЖ Animals!!
User rezook referenced to your post from Russian Aggression...Stop Feeding the ЖЖ Animals!! saying: [...] адания. Прям зачитался )) Оригинал взят у в Russian Aggression...Stop Feeding the ЖЖ Animals!! [...]
mumuka
Oct. 7th, 2014 10:55 am (UTC)
they just don't understand english, thats why rejected hhhh
kremlin_curant
Oct. 7th, 2014 11:36 am (UTC)
At least one of moderators lives in the USA..
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tvar_esho_ta
Oct. 7th, 2014 11:02 am (UTC)
Actually (imao), community dedicated to "pora valit" is not a good place to find educated and polite dialogue.
If somebody successful inside Russia, he or she will be interested in tourism, not in fleeing from "terrible Russia" (or to "Western paradise")
So it's mostly already traumatized auditorium there ;)
Besides, some rumors on Russians are true - I think we are Northern Barbarians of a sort. So - some Russian "bloggers" feel frightened to be trolls in real life. It is might happened to be unhealthy =)
And they overcompensate this fear here - in the RUNet, where they can be as repulsing as they are. This trolls can be of any political strait - it doesn’t matter at all. They just - trolls.
Conclusion: ignore any troll completely - they not worth your time.
And continue your posts - it is interesting to see your opinion from my "Glory to The Empire" observation bunker on many subjects. I believe where is a plenty of "silent observers" of more conservative (or patriotic if you like) position in the RUNet nowadays, but we usually disinclined to comment. We just watching things happen and keeping tabs on our active "liberal" neighbors ;) . But now I think it necessary to say, “thank you!” for being here in Russia Net, despite all hardship you encounter along the way ;).
peacetraveler22
Oct. 7th, 2014 03:07 pm (UTC)
Thanks for your thoughts and comment. Please - do not be such a "silent observer." Comment more often. :)
allshism
Oct. 7th, 2014 11:35 am (UTC)
Because fuck you that's why!
peacetraveler22
Oct. 7th, 2014 03:07 pm (UTC)
Go away...and never return.
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andrey_kaminsky
Oct. 7th, 2014 01:55 pm (UTC)
Знатно пургой заметаешь!)
Мне понравилось про Геракла сношающего кого-то там для выведения породы скифов и русые бороды под нависшими густыми бровями (Онотоле и Брежнев!). Это было поэтично:)
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владимир волокитин
Oct. 7th, 2014 11:50 am (UTC)
Вот только хотел вам написать.. Не ищите терпимости в России. По крайней мере в сегодняшней России.

Edited at 2014-10-07 11:52 am (UTC)
peacetraveler22
Oct. 7th, 2014 02:40 pm (UTC)
I will still search...and probably find none. :(
(no subject) - omurtag - Oct. 9th, 2014 07:21 pm (UTC) - Expand
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how did you come to this conclusion? - (Anonymous) - Jan. 27th, 2015 07:19 pm (UTC) - Expand
barabaan
Oct. 7th, 2014 12:05 pm (UTC)
But you can do the same! Find some grammar errors in their talks, and tell them they are stupid schoolies ;-) That will be really cool! ;-)
peacetraveler22
Oct. 7th, 2014 03:08 pm (UTC)
Maybe one day I'll try to engage in their game, but I'm not a worthy opponent. How can someone with the moniker "peacetraveler" be aggressive and mean? :)
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pot_c_riot
Oct. 7th, 2014 12:07 pm (UTC)
А не могли бы вы дать ссылку на свой пост в этом сообществе.
Please, could you give us a link to your post in "pora_valit".
peacetraveler22
Oct. 7th, 2014 03:10 pm (UTC)
The community did not publish my post, because they considered it "political". So, there's no link. The post appears in the text of this post. It's exactly what I submitted to the pora_valit community.
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max_tulip
Oct. 7th, 2014 12:33 pm (UTC)
In America and most European countries, there's the mentality "to live and let live."

LOL))) Tell this story to the Iraqis, Libyans, Syrians and other Muslims.! ;)
peacetraveler22
Oct. 7th, 2014 12:48 pm (UTC)
Do not be an idiot. I'm talking about interactions amongst average citizens in America and Russia, not our foreign policies.
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peacetraveler22
Oct. 7th, 2014 03:14 pm (UTC)
As human beings, we have the opportunity to use our intelligence to seek answers to essential questions such as “Who am I?” and “What is the purpose of life?"....animals do not have this mental ability, and it's the same with RuNet trolls. No ability to think, or process information intelligently. The only instinct is to attack. Animal behavior.
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Re: А что вы хотели? - peacetraveler22 - Oct. 9th, 2014 02:51 pm (UTC) - Expand
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vitokro
Oct. 7th, 2014 01:18 pm (UTC)
Great post
peacetraveler22
Oct. 7th, 2014 03:14 pm (UTC)
Just my honest thoughts... :)
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