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I just learned today is the "day of the shirt" in Ukraine, where the traditional embroidered clothing is celebrated. Many children go to school wearing the festive outfit, and I too remember these shirts fondly from my time in Kyiv. I even bought one back for my nephew, Aidan, after I returned from my journey in August 2011. I began to think about whether America has a "traditional" clothing item like this, which symbolizes the nation? I think the answer is no, because we're an immigrant country, where so many different cultures and styles are blended and celebrated. I guess Americans are mostly known for jeans, cowboy hats, baseball caps, and hoodies. :) Or maybe anything emblazoned with our famous stars and stripes, or red, white and blue logo. What do you think? Now, about Russia...

The only costume of which I'm aware is the traditional folk styling, which I saw in some stores in Moscow.

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On a more tragic note, there's the notorious gopnik outfit, consisting of track suits and fake Adidas gear. Such outfits are completely normal in every day American life, and not associated with thugs or a lower social class of people in any way. To the contrary, in the U.S., Adidas is an expensive clothing and athletic brand, so it's confusing how the label has become so tarnished in Russia, representing something entirely different. For a trademark lawyer, this is a nightmare! :)

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Do you like this traditional clothing, or think it's ridiculous to wear and celebrate it?

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nikolka22
May. 21st, 2015 04:01 pm (UTC)
по-моему, такие праздники - дикость. влажные мечты ортодоксов.
peacetraveler22
May. 21st, 2015 04:03 pm (UTC)
The Orthodox cannot have wet dreams! It's forbidden, and a sign of lack of spirituality and perversion! :))
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pivovaroffs
May. 21st, 2015 04:05 pm (UTC)
> cowboy hats

Yes, most people in Russia would recognize it as national U.S. clothing.

P.S. Selebrating ukrainian "day of the shirt" is not a good idea if you try to stay away from politics.
peacetraveler22
May. 21st, 2015 04:11 pm (UTC)
This post says nothing about politics, it's about clothing. :) But, yes, I understand some people always find a way to turn the theme around and make the discussion nasty and insulting. I like cowboy hats! :))

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minerman61
May. 21st, 2015 04:09 pm (UTC)
You'v writen about Ukraine but ask here "what do you think about Russia"/
HM.
Yd better write your point about Donbass & the ukranian trerror in this area ...
peacetraveler22
May. 21st, 2015 04:12 pm (UTC)
I'm asking about clothing, not geopolitical matters. Behave, and don't create chaos when none was intended!
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onkel_hans
May. 21st, 2015 04:21 pm (UTC)
Regarding shirts.

What we call a wifebeater, in Russia is called the "alcoholic shirt".
The shirt that boy is wearing is called in Russiq the "antisemitic shirt" - "antisemitka".

Tu timere Danaos ...
;)
peacetraveler22
May. 21st, 2015 04:22 pm (UTC)
Do you agree that in American culture "wifebeaters" are associated with redneck culture? I think so, but my nephew wears them in the summer because he's a sweaty beast. :)
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pin_gwin
May. 21st, 2015 04:22 pm (UTC)
America does have it, and it's as big deal.
JEANS!!! Cowboy outfit!!! Boots!!! Hats!!! And it is not for show - Montana, Colorado, Wy, TX wear that thing just every day!!! I Seeing this is just amazing.
There is one more american thing - baseball cap, I do not like them, but anyway...
peacetraveler22
May. 21st, 2015 04:24 pm (UTC)
Re: America does have it, and it's as big deal.
Okay, so I was right! I wasn't sure what foreigners consider "traditional" American clothing, but I guessed properly. I love cowboy hats! And, you're right, in Wyoming, everyone wears cowboy hats. However, in Washington, DC, it's not so common. Instead, we have a lot of frat boys wearing baseball caps. :)
c250
May. 21st, 2015 04:27 pm (UTC)
Thanks to all for support of Ukraine.
peacetraveler22
May. 21st, 2015 04:29 pm (UTC)
Yes, I love Ukraine. :)
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phd_paul_lector
May. 21st, 2015 04:27 pm (UTC)
I do not think there should be a "National Clothes Day", I like it as it is in Japan, India or (less so) Korea: traditional clothes can be worn on holidays or just for pleasure and it's not uncommon to see a lady wearing kimono in subway.

For Russia, however, the traditional clothes, especially male ones, are just a memory now (mostly because in early 20th century they were associated with villages and village guys who were coming to cities becoming workers tended to switch to city-stile as our version of "red-necks" was usually laughed at. Ukraine was more agrarian, plus they were more tuned to nationalist tendencies all the way. This was also officially supported - just look at the Soviet posters. Soviet nations were always depicted in national clothes... whereas ethnic Russians were more often then not shown in steel-maker's robe or something :)
peacetraveler22
May. 21st, 2015 05:09 pm (UTC)
Have you ever been to an Indian wedding?? I have several friends, and one of them got married in a traditional ceremony a few years ago. It was amazing, but soooo long! :)) All kinds of unique components of the ceremonies and of course many female guests dressed in their beautiful saris.
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peacetraveler22
May. 21st, 2015 04:58 pm (UTC)
Is this some slang word? Sorry, I don't know it and online translators don't convey the English meaning.
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mb_b
May. 21st, 2015 04:33 pm (UTC)
Bluejeans, ten-gallon hats, baseball caps... also overalls and engineering boots, I think. Hoodies are more of a subculture, right up there with the feather headgear.
Now, the Russian-fassian... how about a dirty A-shirt, old sweatpants well stretched at the knees, a beer-belly, and don't forget the tapki (slippers). Oh, and this is also how you recognize new immigrants from Russia (in Israel, say): They wear socks with sandals.
mb_b
May. 21st, 2015 04:36 pm (UTC)
Oh, and one more thing for the Americans: They usually wear pickup trucks with all the other items listed.
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2tvlad
May. 21st, 2015 04:33 pm (UTC)
You know what "hohlosrach"?
peacetraveler22
May. 21st, 2015 04:57 pm (UTC)
No, I don't know the meaning of this word.
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2tvlad
May. 21st, 2015 04:40 pm (UTC)
"Now, about Russia..." =)

saccovanzetti
May. 21st, 2015 04:42 pm (UTC)
Adidas was one of very few world sportswear brands available in the Soviet Union. Of course, one had to find it (sold a few times a year at major department stores in capital cities) and wait in line for hours to buy.
peacetraveler22
May. 21st, 2015 04:43 pm (UTC)
But how did it become the symbol of gopnik culture in Russia?
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rexby63
May. 21st, 2015 04:44 pm (UTC)
Мне кажется, что украинский "день вышиванки" - это не совсем удачная попытка киевских политтехнологов найти "национальную идею". Сродни поиску "духовности" у моих соотечественников. И то, и другое - гротеск. Или, словами поэта: "Всё это было бы смешно, Когда бы не было так грустно..."
peacetraveler22
May. 21st, 2015 05:14 pm (UTC)
I think this holiday existed long before the current political tensions and war, so this is not the motive. It's merely a celebration of Ukrainian culture, perhaps in the same way Americans wear patriotic outfits and colors on the Fourth of July, our Independence Day. I like it. In my view, there's nothing wrong with loving your nation and celebrating it.

Edited at 2015-05-21 05:30 pm (UTC)
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fedli
May. 21st, 2015 04:48 pm (UTC)
"Чем бы дитя не тешилось,лишь бы не плакало"-русская народная поговорка.Любопытно,в каком виде она к Вам приёдёт))).
peacetraveler22
May. 21st, 2015 05:15 pm (UTC)
Btw, I recently went to a reception for a Russian law firm at a professional work conference, and they had folk dancers there. They were dressed just as these children, but in adult sized costumes. :)
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notfop
May. 21st, 2015 05:03 pm (UTC)
He:) I know these guys on last pic :) They are sitting in my yard right now :)
peacetraveler22
May. 21st, 2015 05:15 pm (UTC)
Tell them I said hello! :)
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