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Discrimination against the childless!

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America is a country of convenience, but for whom? In Virginia, we're having torrential rains the past few days, but this doesn't stop me from doing ordinary chores. A woman still has to eat, even in the pouring rain. After a very long day in the office, I drove to a crowded new grocery store. I had no umbrella, so my tired eyes began searching for a parking space near the entrance so I wouldn't get even more wet. Then I saw this sign!! Right beside the handicapped spaces in each parking aisle are two reserved spots for "Customers with Children." Why? Tell me please why I should have to park further away, carry my heavy bags a longer distance, and get soaking wet just because I'm childless? Being a parent is suddenly a handicap, worthy of a special parking spot?

Then I went inside the store and saw delicious cookies being offered by "Harry the Happy Dragon." But for kids only. What happens if I decide to take one? Will the dragon breathe fire at me? :)

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Do you think parents should have special parking spaces? I don't. I'm sure being a parent is one of the most rewarding and life changing events in a human's life, but with this choice also comes a new set of responsibilities, joys and inconveniences. One of them includes taking much longer to leave the house, board the car and leave it, especially when dealing with an infant. I've done it many, many times with young relatives and my nephew. Such is life...

I love children, but don't think parenthood should equal special and favorable treatment. Not at the grocery store and definitely not in the workplace. How about airplanes, and the nightmare of having an unruly and screaming child near you? Of course, we've all experienced it and in such situations I'm usually very calm and sympathetic as long as the parent tries to correct the child's behavior. Should single people and solo travelers have a "child free" cabin, so they can rest in peace during long flights? :) Personally, I think this idea is ridiculous.

Do you have these special parking spaces for parents at Russian stores?

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new_forester
Oct. 2nd, 2015 03:17 am (UTC)
It's probably good for their business to appeal to customers with children in this way, and it's their private lot, they can set their own rules. However, I doubt these signs are enforceable. If you park there, what are they going to do?
OTOH, if I were you, I'd stop patronizing this business, as a matter of principle. If they make you feel unwelcome, why return there?
peacetraveler22
Oct. 2nd, 2015 03:36 pm (UTC)
They are not enforceable. :) It's not like a handicap spot, where this an over $100 fine for parking w/out the proper handicap tag. I've only seen this type of "child" parking in a few places. Now I'm living in 100% suburbia. There are almost no single people here, all families. It's very strange for me because I previously lived in an area where there were mostly single professional people. So, it's just a life and mentality adjustment to go back to the burbs. :)
berngardovka
Oct. 2nd, 2015 03:26 am (UTC)
We don't have , but it is not a bad idea

I just realize why we have seats in a public transport
When you are with the child , you should carry your bags, child's bags or toys and carry and hold a child
And it is difficult!

So than less time I should walk on parking than less risk of that I will not hold a hand and he we run and something happened
peacetraveler22
Oct. 2nd, 2015 03:37 pm (UTC)
Yes, it's a pain. I've done it many times, and even now that my nephew is older. Carrying soccer equipment, balls, knee pads, snacks for after the game...but this is part of the responsibility that comes with being a parent.
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ex_leo_sosn
Oct. 2nd, 2015 03:35 am (UTC)
Pretty obvious, hard to tell why are you ranting. Having children is a serious financial and time wasting burden for parents. It impacts both your career and financial posture. In the end they get barely any benefit for their suffering, but government gets another citizen to pay taxes, to serve in military etc. Any country is as strong as its citizens are and a country with not enough citizens will quickly become a victim of other countries.

I say, currently there aren't enough benefits for parents in America and it's still financially inviable, but government still wins because many parents enjoy parenting by other means than money, specifically, by evolutionary human nature design, especially in women, causing them to "want" to have children and enjoy babysitting by manipulating their behavior.

As of now, it's not financially viable to have children in the US and childless are society's freeriders.
porosenok_aust
Oct. 2nd, 2015 12:26 pm (UTC)
But it is your own problem whether you want children or not.
Yes, it is expensive.
But why other people should pay for it. They will pay for their own children if they want.
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Disabled can kill himself. - xpo_xpo_xpo - Oct. 6th, 2015 11:54 am (UTC) - Expand
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linamay
Oct. 2nd, 2015 03:38 am (UTC)
I have two kids and I think it's reasonable, it's dangerous and stressful walking with two kids and pushing a cart all over the parking lot.
peacetraveler22
Oct. 2nd, 2015 03:39 pm (UTC)
The main benefit of the spaces is safety, not convenience. On this point I agree. It lessens the likelihood that a child will run out and get hit by a car. And no store wants to incur liability for such an incident.
seadevil001
Oct. 2nd, 2015 03:44 am (UTC)
it will be better if such spots will be around shopping carts parking areas. So when one stuff children in the car on top of groceries he/she can drop off cart fast, before little monsters start crawling out of windows. 8-)
In MA I saw such signs only at Cabela's store and it did not strike me as a good idea.
peacetraveler22
Oct. 2nd, 2015 03:40 pm (UTC)
They aren't very common in Virginia either. Only in areas of deep suburbia, where about 80% of residents having one or more children.
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mybmd
Oct. 2nd, 2015 04:12 am (UTC)
Ha! I always take a cookie. :}
vitsky
Oct. 2nd, 2015 06:18 am (UTC)
If you feel like a child - why not. ;)
The sign says "kids of all ages". You can be a kid from 0 to 99 (and more), and no one should stop you.)
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ex_juan_gan
Oct. 2nd, 2015 04:46 am (UTC)
My daughter has three children. It's not easy. I'd rather leave the space close by to those who have more problems than just rolling back the cart too far from the car.
peacetraveler22
Oct. 2nd, 2015 03:43 pm (UTC)
I agree, parenthood can be a big pain in the ass. It takes a lot of effort, time and patience but I hope the rewards outweigh these burdens. However, having children is a choice. I get tired of listening to parents complain about their lack of freedom and time after having them.
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selfmade
Oct. 2nd, 2015 05:02 am (UTC)
Tell me please why I should have to park further away, carry my heavy bags a longer distance, and get soaking wet just because I'm physically intact?
south_of_broad
Oct. 2nd, 2015 07:46 am (UTC)
You don't need to carry anything there are carts available . Walking is good for you.
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What's the need for handicapped parking? - xpo_xpo_xpo - Oct. 6th, 2015 03:13 am (UTC) - Expand
e_g_o_r_i_u_s
Oct. 2nd, 2015 05:37 am (UTC)
Shannon, but there was no prohibition for you to take a cookie - they are proposed for kids of all ages!

And these parking spots - it's not a discrimination of childless, no, it's a positive discrimination of parents.
zhang_fei
Oct. 2nd, 2015 12:51 pm (UTC)
Yeah, and that period when blacks had been segregated wasn't discrimination of black people, that was a positive discrimination of white people, so that they could feel slightly more comfortable without those blacks in their backyards.
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notfop
Oct. 2nd, 2015 05:40 am (UTC)
In Russia,there is only one official warning sign under the main sign for the Parking area is a "disabled sign". Any other type of warning signs are on the banned list.
andrey_kaminsky
Oct. 2nd, 2015 06:36 am (UTC)
Так легко нас не взять
I think if the government is trying to excel seeking ways how to ban people using condoms and the internet, then these people perceive questions about parking as insignificant :)
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alexeykostylev
Oct. 2nd, 2015 07:00 am (UTC)

Usually the are parking slots for disabled as well. Do you want to ask "why shoulg you get wet just because you are not disabled"?

peacetraveler22
Oct. 2nd, 2015 03:47 pm (UTC)
No, the disabled are physically impaired...in wheelchairs, or very elderly. Parents are typically younger and completely healthy. I don't think there is any correlation between the two.
dkfl
Oct. 2nd, 2015 07:18 am (UTC)
Russia is for childless.
Because you have to to carry only a few heavy bags, not extra screaming "gimme this toy!" 20+kg :)

I like this sort of "discrimination" :)
peacetraveler22
Oct. 2nd, 2015 03:47 pm (UTC)
:))
maadmike
Oct. 2nd, 2015 07:25 am (UTC)
I don't remmember nothing like this in Russia. But with the birth of a child a man becomes a very milch cow. So, maybe the owner of the grosery just want to show how he likes this perspective? Its like our army should make sign - "Thank you for the son pal, free vacation for year for your priceless baby".
peacetraveler22
Oct. 2nd, 2015 04:03 pm (UTC)
A business should be free to conduct their business as they wish. I agree. I was just in a bad mood yesterday, and felt it necessary to complain. :)
south_of_broad
Oct. 2nd, 2015 07:43 am (UTC)
Have you tried to load the car with the toddler in your hands? Have you tried to do the same in the rain?
peacetraveler22
Oct. 2nd, 2015 04:03 pm (UTC)
Yes, many times. It's difficult!
yarowind
Oct. 2nd, 2015 08:46 am (UTC)
>>Right beside the handicapped spaces in each parking aisle are two reserved spots for "Customers with Children."

Good idea.
peacetraveler22
Oct. 2nd, 2015 04:03 pm (UTC)
I'm sure all parents like it. Makes their lives much easier.
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