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"Russians Deserve Better than Putin"...

Last week we discussed Putin's op-ed to the American people in the New York Times. What's the best way to infuriate Russian readers? Speak about America's greatness! This I know, but I didn't properly explain myself in the post and many took extra offense at my statements. You can read through the numerous comments where I clarify my position. Thanks to all who commented and offered your opinion on the topic. Such posts always generate very interesting discussions and offer greater insight into your country.

Today U.S. Senator John McCain published a similar op-ed at Pravda.ru, addressing the Russian people. I read it, and believe Putin's article was more articulate and powerful. Though certainly a bit hypocritical on some points, especially harping on the fact that we're all created "equal." You can't make these statements and then oppress certain members of the very society you govern. I'm not a McCain supporter and will not defend him, but his article is worth a read. I pass it along for those interested.

In less than a week, I'll return to Moscow to begin my Eastern European journey. I'll try to write some posts during the trip to keep everyone updated on the adventure! 

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moebiuscat
Sep. 19th, 2013 02:44 pm (UTC)
Bon Voyage!
peacetraveler22
Sep. 19th, 2013 04:04 pm (UTC)
Спасибо!
wojzeh
Sep. 19th, 2013 03:01 pm (UTC)
Good luck!

What is your itinerary?
peacetraveler22
Sep. 19th, 2013 04:05 pm (UTC)
The itinerary changed a bit. Sasha wrote about the updated version on his blog yesterday - http://macos.livejournal.com/855785.html.
grand_damme
Sep. 19th, 2013 03:03 pm (UTC)
I m absolutely agree with John McCain!
peacetraveler22
Sep. 19th, 2013 04:07 pm (UTC)
I agree with him on some points, but I don't like this American politician. He's too conservative for my taste. Although he was a prisoner of war, and deserves great respect for his service to our country.
moonrainbow
Sep. 19th, 2013 03:05 pm (UTC)
I don't like McCain but that is one statement I agree with. We deserve a better president and a bettrer government. Though, probably, we are too passive and not ready to defend our rights, and whoever doesn't defend them, will see his rights taken away.

Just these days, I have witnessed an outrageously arrogant behavior of the authorities to a scientific institution with 300 years of history - the Russian Academy of Sciences. In brief, they decided to take away its autonomy and property and to make the institutions and organizations of RAS run by bureaucrats. The state and president himself trampled scientists, ignoring voices of protest or saying "oh they are worthless, they just waste money and do nothing" and even "why, we have considered all their amendments".

I felt as if i were in the early days of Nazi Germany as the state plays with 50 thousand smart people as if they were laboratory mice. I am outraged and depressed, and if I were a scientist, I would think about emigration.

I went out for protesting, but that didn't matter of course.

So.. We do need another president now. But I don't want to replace Putin with a McCain-type champ - that's yet worse.

You come to Moscow, that's great. Maybe we meet at another academicians protest. But this September doesn't match my expectations. It's cold, windy and rainy - twice as much rain as usual, only a few hours of sun. Next week you should expect just about +13 Celsius at best. Leaves are yellow and falling, the country is approaching depressive darkness that precedes winter.
qi_tronic
Sep. 19th, 2013 04:01 pm (UTC)
I do not khow will it be better or worse now but the Academy badly needs reforms anyway.

My father is a physicist and he worked in Lebedev Physics Institute almost all his life.
In late 80s and early 90s, when I visited his workplace often, it was not a good place to work.
Everything was just stale,
No proper funding, old people, no energy.
Some more active people just made their own small business inside the rotten body of this dinosaur.

So I told him long ago that Academy should better not exist anymore.
Scientists should work either in universities (and teach students too) or in national laboratories satisfying well formulated requests from the military.

That is my opinion.
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wojzeh
Sep. 19th, 2013 03:08 pm (UTC)
what concerns the article, i don't see why he needed to write it. in one word this is feeblish.
peacetraveler22
Sep. 19th, 2013 04:12 pm (UTC)
McCain is one the most vocal opponents to Putin in American politics, so I guess he felt the need to make his voice heard after Putin bitch-slapped us. I think his article is quite weak though. He probably suffers from the American disease of being too polite and tactful. Russians, in general, not as delicate. :)
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texnews
Sep. 19th, 2013 04:00 pm (UTC)
my Eastern European journey
Good luck over there!
peacetraveler22
Sep. 19th, 2013 04:02 pm (UTC)
Re: my Eastern European journey
Thanks! Registered Texas Republican? :)) You must be a McCain supporter. He's an interesting man and, of course, a great war hero. But I don't like some of his policies.
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qi_tronic
Sep. 19th, 2013 04:05 pm (UTC)
So have you decided to return through Belarus and Minsk particularly?
My wife wanted to visit Minsk and this may be a good cause.
peacetraveler22
Sep. 19th, 2013 04:19 pm (UTC)
I don't which city yet, or even the day! The schedule is still very fluid, but I told him we should at least stop in one city because I spent so much money for the visa. So we are going to try to fit it into the route on the return. I'll let you know when I receive more info.
nar_row
Sep. 19th, 2013 04:08 pm (UTC)
At this point I agree with him.
We deserves better than Putin.
peacetraveler22
Sep. 19th, 2013 04:18 pm (UTC)
How many successive terms can a Russian president serve? In America, it's limited to two four-year terms.
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mybathroom
Sep. 19th, 2013 04:19 pm (UTC)
Every nation gets the government it deserves.
peacetraveler22
Sep. 19th, 2013 05:59 pm (UTC)
I don't know to what extent Russian elections are truly corrupt, but I hope people can institute change in the future if it's what most Russians desire.
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york_shambles
Sep. 19th, 2013 04:52 pm (UTC)
Today we are all Georgians!


<<"I am a war criminal," McCain said on "60 Minutes" in 1997. "I bombed innocent women and children.>>

Now after Putin's speech he can always add "I'm American, I'm exceptional".
peacetraveler22
Sep. 19th, 2013 06:00 pm (UTC)
Re: Today we are all Georgians!
What does the poster say? I only recognize a few Russian words.
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south_of_broad
Sep. 19th, 2013 05:04 pm (UTC)
Pravda? Seriously? Huge mistake and I would really like to read their translation. I don't know what do I feel about this article, somehow he says all the right words, but it doesn't touch me. His writing style sounds a little bit condescending. I cannot explain why do I feel this way, I've read it twice : every sentence is great, every point he is making is right on target. By why do I want to say : "Get off your high horse , John! They can't hear you!"

I loved Sen. Jim DeMint letter. http://www.scribd.com/doc/167987463/Letter-from-Jim-DeMint-to-President-Vladimir-Putin-on-American-Exceptionalism
That is a great example how to get to the point without sounding like a pompous ass.

Oh, and good luck!

peacetraveler22
Sep. 19th, 2013 05:57 pm (UTC)
The article is dry and uninspiring, just like his personality. So, it's not really surprising to me. I read DeMint's letter last week, I like it. It will be interesting for me to see these former Soviet bloc countries. But we will travel that same awful highway we took to St. Petersburg to reach Estonia, the starting point for the trip. I'm not looking forward to that part.
fesma94
Sep. 19th, 2013 05:09 pm (UTC)
Make love not policy :-)
I hope that after journey you will run more funny post to compare Eastern European daughters of Eve and American ! :-)
P.S . Please check ,teacher ! :-)
peacetraveler22
Sep. 19th, 2013 05:50 pm (UTC)
Re: Make love not policy :-)
The English is correct! All good. I think I'll try to write some reports during the trip if I have enough energy, but we have an exhausting schedule. Lots of miles on the road.
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olgor
Sep. 19th, 2013 11:46 pm (UTC)
Respect to John McCain.
peacetraveler22
Sep. 19th, 2013 11:50 pm (UTC)
And what about Putin's article to Americans? What did you think of it? You live in America, so your perspective is interesting. Readers beat me up in the comments. :))
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(Anonymous)
Sep. 20th, 2013 03:48 am (UTC)
IMHO this is the best analisys of the self-serving stunt:
http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/09/19/mccain-first-country-last/
peacetraveler22
Sep. 20th, 2013 05:14 pm (UTC)
Andrew Sullivan, I watch him almost very night on CNN w/Anderson Cooper.
andrey_kaminsky
Sep. 20th, 2013 06:46 am (UTC)
Пора проповедовать, но мне лень
"I guess he felt the need to make his voice heard after Putin bitch-slapped us"(c) From where did you get that feeling of "bitch-slapped"? "You're not exceptional" sounds offensive to you? Or do you think that only politicians of "exceptional" nations have the right to teach other nations? Maybe the fact that Putin is evil dude, deprives him of his right to express his opinion? This is a very interesting point. I find American patriotism is very entertaining. Sometimes, it seems to me, patriotism conflicts with common sense, like religion do. I'm trolled by patriotism :)
You have to bite macos and suck out his blood, then he will turn into an American patriot and explain to readers, using the Russian language, what it is!) But, I warn you! A portrait of Putin, hanging on a chain around his neck, may prevent you!
^~^

Edited at 2013-09-20 06:51 am (UTC)
peacetraveler22
Sep. 20th, 2013 04:51 pm (UTC)
Re: Пора проповедовать, но мне лень
"Bitch-slapped" - this is English slang for putting someone in their place. It was a joke. :) Sometimes America needs a spanking, but we rarely get one. So, in this way, I respect Putin. Sasha traveled in America for two straight months, writing reports almost every night. You should read them. Maybe it will help you understand Americans better - http://macos.ms/travel/?c=USA.
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